Breakout Room 3/9/2021

Group Members: Elena, Lu, Keona, Katie, Sonia

Elena: Models erase experiences
Sonia: Models create limits, boxes someone in
Keona: No one lived experience, any category creates limits
Elena: relation to Language and Gender
Katie: Limiting potential
Katie: No one experience is the same and that discredits models
Lu: social model doesn’t put the blame on disabled, but they can apply it to any person, which can be harmful. Some things are reserved for certain groups (CODA example). Self-ableism
Elena: education is privilege, higher chance of lack of access if in oppressed group, relates back to shaving legs
Sonia: Ease of discrimination (not putting in a ramp example), pretty scary how subtle discrimination can be
Katie: Awareness increased by this class
Lu: gov’t determines who gets benefits, great controversy because of that, article sent about abortions and down syndrome
Sonia: ties into imagined futures, making the decision for the child
Elena: lack of autonomy, multitude of reasons for abortion after finding out child has autism, chronic illness and pain don’t like model of disability b/c it erases their experience. All ties into capitalism!!
Lu: we can’t define things for other people– imagined futures, no one asks how disabled person feels about decisions
Sonia: cure or kill is back
Elena: placing worth of disabled people on their cost of existing, think about people in relation to abled lives
Katie: base disabled lives off the lives of abled people, very corrupt
Elena: bring it back to capitalism, rise of communes on TikTok (community that is egalitarian is ableist fantasy, disabled people can’t perform physical labor, which is how that society works)

TKAM
Elena: Underwood editorial and the premise of not shooting mockingbirds, similar as men saying “I would never hit a woman”, doesn’t make me feel empowered, preventing violence against women but still misguided
Sonia: relates back to “I didn’t know it was ableist”, doesn’t actually help the issue because there’s no action taken, what are you doing about that?
Elena: “band-aid fixes”, saying you’re not one way or wouldn’t do something actually addresses the issue but still comes from place that creates the issue, a lot of people don’t know what it’s like to be disabled, still others people

Sonia: blaming Tom Robinson for his death b/c of his disability, instead of the people who shot him
Elena: erases experience of disability, chances of dying would have been similar w/ escape, circumstances are dire
Katie: 17 shots was way more than needed
Elena: relates to shooting of black people, excessive shots, clearly because of racism
Keona: agrees with that, all intersections play a part in discrimination

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