breakout group 4/8/21

Faith, David, Lily, Karlie

Faith: what Yessie did was irresponsible but I think she handled that very well

Karlie: a lot of development that kind of flip flopped a bit. I fear what she did is gonna keep Jimmie from adopting her

David: I think the ending hinted that she did. My response is just anger. “Oh yes the death was tragic but a reasonable amount of deaths”

Kalie: “how many deaths are reasonable?” “however many we have” really?

David: complete dehumanisation . Also shocked Teddy died. 

Karlie: I knew something was going to go wrong, I was expecting it. 

Faith: It had to happen though, to trigger what Yessie did with the protest

Karlie: Worried for Yessie at first because of what the repercussions are, but then more people joined.

Faith: I liked how Access Now joined in.

Karlie: Mia started supporting herself which was really cool.

Faith: Yeah, and we found out she was abused by her mother

Karlie: Reading that upset me.

Foss: Do you think she is getting to a place where she can talk about it? Willing to confront her past? Silver-lining.

Karlie: she is developing a mature view on the world and at a young age, that’s disheartening 

David: One character Michelle had a weird ending, like no payoff?

Karlie: I liked her ending, she seemed one-dimensional at first. She became more human when she saw the wrong doings and quit

David: instead of empathy she had apathy.

Faith: I wanted her to do more about it, but I’m glad she quit and realized her job wasn’t helping people.

David: when she thought about reporting the conversation of the boss and then said “it doesn’t matter” that bothered me.

Karlie: What did you think of Jimmie adopting Yessie?

Faith: I liked how she saw her as an adult not her child, just roommates.

Karlie: Keeping the friendship alive

Faith: the way Teddy died didn’t sit well with me. Like shows disabled people can’t do things on their own after all.

Karlie: there was something wrong with the pipes too.

David: She could have checked it before leaving though.

New breakout room

Faith: the WHO defined disability and impairment as a disadvantage in the workplace and that irritates me because how are they supposed to get jobs if no one will advocate for them? They need work, too.

David: 79% of disbaled adults prefer to work but only 38% get to work. Even with the ideas of “no discrimination” in the workplace there is still a barrier for them.

Faith: it sucks that they are three times more likely to be below the poverty line

Karlie: a lot of things in that article annoyed me. Just goes to show that our society is not willing to work with disability

David: ableism is ignored and not dealt with upfront these numbers, aren’t presented often enough. The main thing that stuck out to me were the numbers. They are completely brand new to me. A severe lack of information to the public. 

Foss: A lot of these stats are viewed from the census. Especially hard for disabled people from ethnic backgrounds because they find themselves incarcerated school to prison pipeline

Breakout Rooms 2/25/2021 recorded by Zachary Welsh

Members: Zachary Welsh, Taylor Boris, Jessie Harper, and Daniel Huffman

To Kill A Mockingbird:

Jessie: What do you think of boo?

Taylor: He’s an enigma that’s for sure. After taking this course, reading this book feels different and there’s things that I hadn’t noticed before.

Jessie: I dont think hes a monster like everyone thinks he is

Daniel: Why do you think Lee included his character?

Jessie: If it wasn’t for boo I don’t think the kids would’ve considered the race issue as much.

Daniel: Speaking in terms of race and disability, I can’t help but feel like we have to discuss them together. 

Jessie: No, they definitely run parallel with one another. I can’t wait for my kid to actually read this book so I can get their perspective on it. 

Zachary: I feel like Boo kind of represents the stereotypes that are associated with people with disabilities. Like these characters know nothing about him and yet he’s described as a recluse and a freak or when he’s called a malevolent phantom. And I think it’s interesting because even today people stereotype disabled individuals even without knowing anything about them, so its an important thing to discuss..

Taylor: Yeah that’s definitely true, I think that’s a good point.

Daniel and Jessie: I feel like he might be on the spectrum but I could be wrong. 

As Good As It Gets:

Taylor: It talked about the queer side of disability which I thought was interesting because I feel like that’s one of the most marginalized groups that aren’t talked about. 

Jessie: Yeah that group in general isn’t talked about. 

Taylor: There’s a lot of good points that are brought up in here 

Jessie: Yeah it’s like a whole group that isn’t even talked about here 

Daniel: No one ever breaks down the LGBT community so it was really nice to get an article about that 

Taylor: I feel like this reading talks a lot about how there’s a lot more to people than others assume.Jessie and Daniel: This is such a massively under talked about group because people don’t think about them.

2/23/2021 Breakout Room Notes Recorded by Zachary Welsh

Members: Zachary Welsh, Keona May, Taylor Boris, Maddie Simpson, Sonia Joshi 

Zachary: There’s a quote that I really liked where Thomson said “feminists, businesswomen, Asians, Northerners, and black professionals are oftentimes stereotyped as highly competent an so they are often envied, while on the other hand housewives, disabled people, blind people, elderly people, and the so-called retarded people warm and having low competence, thus they were pitied.” I think that’s an important discussion point because stereotypes are a problem even to this day so I think it’s important to bring those to light and discuss those.

Sonia: Stereotypes exist but that doesn’t mean they should exist.

Keona: I agree with that too because I feel like while stereotypes might have an ounce of truth to them, it’s important to look into them and see what’s actually true.

Taylor: Stereotypes are very narrowing. It’s interesting how the article talks about feminism and race and how they connect to disability.

Maddie: So…. I found that admission that feminist theory tends to focus only on reproductive disability to be really interesting. Focusing on reproductive rights and advocating for reproductive equality isn’t all feminism and disability have to promote, and I like how this article focuses on that!

Sonia: It’s important to factor everything when trying to understand individuals. 

Keona: We talked about how there’s not only one way to be an activist and in some way everyone is an activist to a certain extent and i think it’s interesting that this is coming up in this course. But yeah, it’s important to look at all factors when knowing someone instead of just the stereotypes. 

Sonia: I liked what maddie said and I think it’s important to take into account that each community will have their own issues that may not be part of the whole, but that doesn’t make them unimportant. 

Sonia: On page 264, there’s a bit where she talks about a poster with a girl in a wheelchair and I feel like that’s really alarming to see that they were pushing stuff like that on a large scale and it’s creepy that their wellness cards say stuff like “snap out of it.” 

Keona: We shouldn’t even look at disabilities as something that needs to be cured. It’s not like disabilities are a disease so we shouldnt see them as one.  

Maddie: The article talks directly about the feminist disability community focuses on the broad undersztanding of disability that focuses on marginalizing and stereotyping bodies. I think this broad understanding is both recognizing the entire community, but loses highlighting what is important in each aspect of the community.

Sonia: It’s odd that the sexualized pictures of the athlete don’t have any reference to her disability. And i think it’s odd because she said it’s hard for someone disabled to feel sexual

Keona: There’s a quote about how women have different identities and I think it’s interesting how women have to balance all of these identities.

The Creator and the Creation Breakout Group 2/4

Brianna Fridriksson (B), Lanie Taylor (L), Nicholas Bergmeister (N), Aspaisa Sheppard (A)

The Creature: Breakout room 1

B: I think that the first bit of the story where we see, where we get introduced to victor and seeing where the creature begun his origin. It was interesting how the creature was living in the little house attached to the family. It was an ode to a learning disability. How the family took in a girl and started teaching her, while the creature was watching and teaching himself because of how the people would be scared of him. He was on his own in teaching himself, which he is able to teach himself because we see him later being very articulate.

L: I agree. He taught himself and when he stole the books, he taught himself further off of those books.

B: compares to being in another language, where you have to piece in what you know with what you have to figure out things on your own.

A: This might be a bit of a stretch but I feel like the book shows different disabilities or hints of different disabilities. Like Brianna said there’s the learning disability, somewhat of a visual physical disability since it’s a creation and learning to use the different parts.

N: He doesn’t think that the creature has a disability. He looks different, but reminds victor that he is stronger and better than any other human.

B: We can argue either way, it is largely up to interperatation. Looking at both sides, one part, it is victors story, and the other piece where the creature tells his story. The creature has his own mistakes, but is also having to deal with what victor did to him. He was also made up of different parts. The creature could have inhearented something from the parts he was made up of.

A: Agrees that the creature is dealing with the repercussions and consequences because of victor.

B: Marry Shelley is had a lot of children deaths. So that could have affected the story in that way.

L: He wasn’t necessarily “raised” and doesn’t understand right from wrong. Usually if a child is raised by their parent they understand right from wrong, but because the creature wasn’t necessarily raised, he is lacking that right from wrong. So he turns his anger into physical violence.

B: Agrees that he is like a child with an absent parent.

N: He points out that the creature doens’t think he would be accepted, and thats why he wanted someone to have with him. Who accepts him.

B: I think that can come back with disassociation with others who don’t have the disability.

Victor Frankenstein: he Creator: Breakout room 2

L: He is whiney, and is woe is me even though he causes most of his problems

B: We are supposed to simpathize with him because he is human. He created a creature to show that he could even though he didn’t have to

A: I think he was excited to do the creating part of the process but then everything afterwards he was like “yeah no”

L: Why make the creature

B: He sees himself making the creature. like a puzzle, why would he be so scared of the creature coming to life. Its not a beatuty and the situation

L: He might make it to test himself

B: He should have been more happy about the creature

A: I think he sees it as a creation and as science, then when it worked and came to life, he’s shocked. In a way I don’t think he was prepared for what the creature became and what its capable of doing.

B: He didn’t think that the creature wouldn’t have been capable, not so superhuman

B: Sivant syndrome, smart in one field, but doesn’t deal with people.

L: Asperbergs, Victor might have aspebergers, because he becomes so hyper fixed on tasks, is incredibly smart and has social issues. Large bouts of depression and becomes hyper fixiated on tasks. Such as when he was hunting the creature and essentially killed his dogs in the hunt. and almost dying himself.

A: I’m trying to think of an example but the only one I can come up with is kids with toys. They’re excited to get the toy and have the new toy but as soon as it’s unboxed and in their hands, they have already moved on. For the disability lens, he seems disconnected from things that are happening. I’m not sure about what disability(s) Victor has but it’s possibly schizophrenia or asbergers?

N: Thinks more of a character with a personality disorder. When he is talking to the judge, he fits the picture of identity disorder, or illusions. Grandiose, or disillusioned.

B: He is irresponsible, he has a large ego