Breakout Room 3/18 Sec. 2 Group 2

Karlie, Faith, Lily, Salem

Faith: P4,Barker +Murray, “Humanisim is means of ….uncodified certainties.” I like how they broke down what that actually meant.

Foss: Defined humanism. What did you all think about the burn-victims of Japan?
Faith: i think it was interesting that there was a specific name for them

Salem: what did the name translate to? Do you all think that giving a specific name to people who experience a particular tragedy, especially one that results in disability (?) like is that othering those people or like, sympathizing with their pain or both? where is the line between like, pity and sadness versus paying homage i guess

Faith: The name was radiation-effected people, I’m not really sure

Karlie: I read it more as like, a label of their medical condition because it’s such an exclusive condition

Salem: that makes sense, but like, at least in the US medical industry they’ve definitely used straight up slurs against people with disabilities as like, the formal nomenclature for their impairment or condition

Faith: it says “disability in postcolonial…as a generic disabling force.”

Salem: so basically, how it affects you as disability on a societal scale versus personal circumstance depends on the culture you come from and the environment you’re in

Faith: Different environments can make you more disabled than others, depending on your physical surroundings that immobilize you. You’re only as disabled as the society around you decides you are.

Breakout Group 1 Section 2 3/2

Brianna, Arden, Nicholas, Daniella, Salem

Tobin-Siebers, Theory in Disability

  • Nick, Foucault on the docile body, what does this mean? p 175
    • Basically the restructuring of the solider is eugenic sentiment, that people can be removed or corrected from the mass population – Arden 
    • P 174, pp 2 “the human subject has no body…dependent on its order”
      • Objects are defined by the language used around them, disability is made such by the language we use about the body 
      • Not all “impairments” are disabilities, some are just pain or cumbersome, but arent cause for people to be “othered”

H. Lee, TKAM

  • Salem- Perpetuating racism cannot be something that’s disabling because that mindset doesn’t have any negative pushback from the white majority
  • Brianna- if you step outside of the norm, it’s separating you from the majority, even if its the right thing to do 
  • Scout is being influenced by ? townspeople and also Calpurnia

Breakout Group 2 Section 2 3/2

Faith Hopkins, Alaina Taylor, Nathalie Luciano, Shane Mann, Lily Sportsman

A: I like how they use medusa’s sisters as a metaphor

N: “all disablied bodies have to do with the eyes, the hands, the speech”

A: I never thought about it until this article

N: Thought it was interesting how it mentions how disability creates a challenge with the representation of the body; everyone has a different view. Disability isn’t just this tiny picture, there’s so many. All of them comes together to create disability

A: no disability is the same. You can have the same symptoms but every disability is your own

N: The experiences are different, too, even if they have the same disability. Someone with a more visible disability has a completely different experience with someone with an invisible disability. Representation asks to be covered, but it’s so hard to do so with so many disabilities.

F: Soldiers have different outcomes with their “marks of pride” like with a scar, people would say that’s brave or attractive. If one loses legs or arms, it becomes sad.

A: What did you think of the analogy with cyborgs?

N: this analogy is nice, “disability is so unusual that they must be considered extraordinary” 

A: Representation in pop culture: Cyborg from Teen Titans. Good representation for disability

F: Goes to show that there are some good/cool representations of disability

N: It’s less “oh he’s disabiled” and more “wow he’s so cool!”

A: looking more into it, he saves people’s lives and has an ordinary life.

N: What did you guys think of Cheryl Marie’s excerpt?

A: I like it because it says it doesn’t have to be a glamorous recovery

N: the good, the bad, and the ugly of asking for help.


F: I feel like this part that we had to read showed a lot of the “otherness” the sexism and 

L: Shows the lenses of all the otherness. I like being able to see more than just the racism lens, the sexism and disability lens as well.

A: the lady with the addiction, it was hard to read once we found out that she had an addiction rather than just being a mean old lady

L: Sula showed this as well, having an addiction is like a disability like with Plum and the lady from Mockingbird. She wants to go out on her own terms but her “disability” stops her from living her life

A: Atticus holds her to some high regard and sends Jem to read to her. She gave him a lesson to teach; someone’s story isn’t always visible.

F: The way they humanize Tim Johnson by giving him a human name and being concerned about him; it’s like the opposite with the other novels we’ve read where they dehumanize people through animals.

L: Tim Johnson appears very distinguishable to me, like everyone should know who he is.